When we asked this badass woman what, if any, challenges she faced, she said: "I'm a black woman in Indianapolis, where do I start?". We decided to start by asking her more questions. In this episode we talk with Jill English about racism, the disproportionality in the child welfare system, investing in change, addressing systemic racism, being vulnerable, and having difficult and uncomfortable conversations. Jill English has worked in child welfare for more than two decades  and although her roles have changed over the years, her mission has  remained steadfast - she has always been motivated by the kids and that  drives her work each and every day. Jill is the Director of Interrupting Racism for Children at Child Advocates.