Jim Browning has more than four million followers on YouTube, is a star of the BBC’s Scam Interceptors programme and makes his living uncovering and exposing people trying to grift their way to your money – but no-one knows who he really is.

Once a Northern Ireland-based engineer with a curiosity about who was behind those annoying phone calls, now he’s a ‘scam-baiter’ who looks to turn the tables on scammers.

But moving in such dangerous territory means, for his safety, he uses a fake name and keeps his face hidden. He agreed to speak to Tara and Declan for today’s episode of The State of Us while wearing a hoodie and mask.

We’re glad he did though as he talks everything scam, from pig butchering and helping the police to what you should do when you get a scam call, email or text.

For more information on scams and what to do (and not to do), visit the BBC Scam Safe 2025 site: https://www.bbc.co.uk/topics/cz0x47klllzt

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