On today's show we're very honored to have Jim Cantrell Co-founder of Space-X and Vector Space. Jim's son is Colin Cantrell creator of Nexus Earth which is where Jim draws interest in crypto. Jim gives his account of the private space industry and where crypto fit's in.

Jim also shares some personal anecdotes about Elon Musk and how it was almost a Maserati in space instead of a Tesla.

Then David Johnson joins in to discuss not only Factom but Cointext a new method of sending crypto to anyone that can receive an SMS.