Dave welcomes special guest and prolific musician Jim Ward to the podcast. They discuss Jim’s work with At the Drive-In, Sparta, and Sleepercar, the early influence of Steely Dan and Billy Joel, the curse of major labels and the sometimes brutal work of doing your best.

Playlist of Songs Mentioned: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2zXZx3CRvfVo1ThQGXy4C0?si=be3d586501cb46a6

Find Jim Here

https://www.jimwardofficial.com/

https://www.patreon.com/c/JimWard/posts

https://www.sparta.band/