Coach, Speaker, Ultrastud and good friend Jimmy Dean Freeman (20:30) finally joins me on the pod to discuss how he's coping with the pandemic, how to maintain positive thinking, some 100-mile war stories...and that time he was instrumental in me going on a dating show? Also, we have Western States Race Director Craig Thornley (6:39) preceding the conversation to talk about the recent cancellation for just the second time in the race's history.

+ From Squaw to Auburn: https://bit.ly/3azIziW

+ Soil and Oak: https://bit.ly/3bS60Ez

+ Quarantine Backyard Ultra: https://bit.ly/2w7Pn8y

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