This is a long-form interview with Joe Bart who created and organized The Bart Chart (https://thebartchart.com) - There you will find a Top 30 (unofficial) VeeFriends power ranking that is the average of 20 "expert" opinions in the community. The first half of the podcast we dive into Joe's experience before and throughout VeeFriends, the 2nd third we go deep on the Top 30 results, and the last third we jump around and discuss if and how I should get a Hangout Hawk.

ENJOY EPISODE FIFTY SIX!