Actually that title is not something Joan Baez said to me during, or before this 1993 interview we did for my 'The Joe Jackson Interview' slot in The Irish Times. But I wish she had said something like that in advance because the only time this wonderfully free-flowing phone chat hit a wall, named Bobby Zimmerman, in fact, was when I referred to the latter. Thankfully at the very end of the interview, I explain that this I did only to highlight the fact that I sided more with her than with Dylan, when it came to her old claim that the difference between them both, politically was that he said basically "Let's all go home and get stoned, there is nothing we can do," or words to that effect, whereas she argued 'There is and I am going out to do that something!" Joan and I also talked about the argument that drugs immobilized the 60s generation. And of course, we talk about her music. Indeed 99% of the interview is about Joan Baez, her music, politics and ideology overall. She says at the start "lucky man" to me. I was, to get even a 23-minute phone call with Joan Baez.