It was March 2020. The pandemic was just taking hold. And our guest Michael saw the writing on the wall - if more orders didn't come in, his job was on the line. Sadly, that's just what happened, and Michael over the summer was let go from the business development and sales role he loved. In this episode, we explore what many people throughout our pandemic-stricken world are going through: being out of work, but finding a way to push forward. And, as a bonus, we also get to learn from Michael's many years in various sales roles and hear about his journey to earn a college degree - starting in the 90s and finishing next semester - after 30 years! Get ready for heart-felt honesty and a message of hope based on "professional persistence"!