Some conversations are uncomfortable. That does not mean we avoid them.

In Part Two, Dawn and Lisa continue the conversation with JoDee Neil, diving deeper into what it takes to face the truth and why so many people instinctively look away.

This is about listening. Really listening. Even when it is hard.

Key takeaways:
• Why people avoid difficult truths
• How trauma shows up in real conversations
• The role of being a witness and why it matters
• What lawyers need to understand about trauma informed work
• How JoDee Neil is building something bigger than a legal career

This is not easy. It is necessary.

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