Jonathan Allen, the co-author of the new campaign book Lucky: How Joe Biden Barely Won the Presidency, joins Michael Isikoff and Dan Klaidman to share inside details into the Biden campaign that became, in unlikely fashion, the 46th presidential administration. Allen talks about the fateful swings on the campaign trail, Joe Biden's decisive victory in the South Carolina primary, and how Covid shaped the calculus of Biden's messaging strategy. He also talks about the relationship between how Biden ran his campaign and how he has governed early in his presidency, sharing some insightful predictions about what we might see from President Biden as his term goes on.

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• Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc), Senior National Political Reporter, NBC News Digital

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