Episode 67: Joe Clifford: Buckle up for this interview. It's unlike anything else you've heard on the program. But this is no Hero's Journey for either author Joe Clifford (Occam's Razor + The Lakehouse) or Brad. Joe came out of the block on fire, and they covered everything from Donald Trump (two thumbs down), addiction, white privilege, empathy, toxic masculinity, mental health, and therapy. Oh, and writing. There was some talk of writing. If you listen closely.

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