In early 1997 Gay Byrne, Ireland's finest and most famous broadcaster interviewed me about my latest book, Troubadours and Troublemakers, an anthology of my interviews with the likes of Richard Harris, Bono, Edna O'Brien and Gerry Adams. However what Gay, who was fascinated by any tale involving adopted children, really wanted to talk about was my father Joe Jackson senior, who had not only been adopted but also sent to remand school - where we now know he was sexually abused by Christian Brothers though I wasn't aware of this at the time - for stealing a few slices of bacon. This is the first of a two-podcast series and in the second Gay interviews myself and Miriam Dunne, my father's sister who I met for the first time thanks to the interview in this podcast.