Joe Kawly is the Arab World's first openly queer news anchor and a passionate defender of all human rights when not on the air. In this heartfelt conversation, we talk about what it's like being the "first" to openly come out, the responsibility that comes with that and how Joe Kawly sees the LGBTQI+ community situation in the Arab World and Lebanon.In the second part, we discusses journalism today and how we imagine it in the future.