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Well, that was a lot of fun.  Clayton is off in a den in west Asheville "Chasing the Dragon" so we brought on @billsanfordjr of the "Music and Photography" Podcast, and the "Negative Positives Film Photography Podcast"

Straight out the gate I think he recognized I needed an adult, because he jumped right in and started interviewing me.

We laughed, we cried,  we didn't say anything negative about Cleveland Ohio, and! We played a call in from our favorite aussie Keir Frei!

Enjoy y'all

Music by

@bryconmusic and

Mike Guttermanhttps://mikegutterman.bandcamp.com/

@guttermanphotos

@joepollockphotos

@drunk.darkroom

@billysanfordjr

@keirfrei