Daniel Carroll sits down with former submariner and social procurement advocate Joe Piasecki, alongside Symal Group Defence Manager Rhys Hannan, for a timely and grounded conversation ahead of Remembrance Day. Together they unpack what the day truly means, why veterans need recognition all year round and not just on 11 November, and how Symal is building stronger pathways to support contemporary veterans in the workplace.

From Joe’s candid journey from Navy life to social procurement, to Rhys’ insight into Australia’s evolving Defence infrastructure landscape, this episode explores service, sacrifice, family impact and the power of meaningful employment. It’s an honest, thoughtful discussion that invites listeners to pause, reflect and consider the people whose experiences have shaped the freedoms we enjoy today.