Joe and I talk about his start in the game of volleyball, moving all over the country, and eventually landing at the University of Hawaii. We also talk about his ability to succeed as an "undersized" player. His thoughts and advice to other "undersized" players. Joe also talks about his current life living and playing professionally in Germany. What it's like playing professionally during Covid and how he acknowledges his propensity to be messy around his apartment. This was Joe and I's first conversation so it was really cool to hear his passion for the game and his curiosity to learn from more "seasoned" players like myself. Lot's of " " in this description 😂. Enjoy this fun interview.