<p>Former shadow minister for resources, Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, speaks to Peter Switzer about why he disagrees with his party on climate change and other issues, plus an interview with the managing director of Johnson & Johnson Medical in Australia & New Zealand, Susan Martin.</p>

Former shadow minister for resources, Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, speaks to Peter Switzer about why he disagrees with his party on climate change and other issues, plus an interview with the managing director of Johnson & Johnson Medical in Australia & New Zealand, Susan Martin.

<p>Former shadow minister for resources, Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, speaks to Peter Switzer about why he disagrees with his party on climate change and other issues, plus an interview with the managing director of Johnson &amp; Johnson Medical in Australia &amp; New Zealand, Susan Martin.</p>

Joel Fitzgibbon on how the Labor Party has to get real

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Joel Fitzgibbon on how the Labor Party has to get real

Joel Fitzgibbon on how the Labor Party has to get real