Joel Hoekstra (cook, musician, owner of Meyer Music) hosts Aaron McCall for dinner as they discuss creativity, instinct, and finding room to breathe inside the things that matter most. He gets into the connection between food and music, how growth comes from pushing beyond structure, and how both create joy, healing, and a real sense of community when they’re done with care. As a music education advocate, he speaks to the importance of access to music and why it matters. They talk about creative freedom, cooking as expression, and the version of yourself that starts to show up when you finally feel at peace.

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This episode is supported by:
Creative Mornings Grand Rapids
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Revue
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Writer/Producer/Editor/Host:
Aaron McCall
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Co-Host/Sidekick/Photographer:
Joe Matteson
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Music:
"Noises" by Mike Mains & The Branches
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