In this episode, we speak with Joel S. Wit, former U.S. State Department official and author of Fallout: The Inside Story of America's Failure to Disarm North Korea. Wit takes us inside decades of diplomatic efforts, behind-the-scenes negotiations, missed opportunities, and policy missteps that shaped North Korea's nuclear rise. We explore what went wrong, what could have been done differently, and what the future holds for nuclear diplomacy and global security.