The lives of more than 500 SARS employees and their families were upended when the tax agency was captured. Not only did people lose their jobs and income, but families were ripped apart in what has since been exposed as part of a bigger state capture campaign.

In this conversation, Johann van Loggerenberg speaks frankly about the experiences of whistleblowers. He also discusses how civil society can assist whistleblowers, and what laws need to change and why. OUTA website