The Study sand mural by Rohemah Muhamed (podcast listener).  This is a conversation of love that might serve as an example of how to come to know the adjacent other. America's immigration histories are rich and diverse. Often, our presence in America as the children of immigrants renders us living within invisible barriers from on another.  One of those barriers is Coptic Christianity and Islam in Egypt.  John Abdou is a leader within USA Waterpolo and a son of southern California. John and I come to know each other in our first ever conversation. Through this conversation we both came to understand ourselves and our lived experience with more depth and clarity. We speak on love of nation and love of origin. Touching upon our understanding of America's exceptionalism, we meditate on our blackness in America and the result of our disenfranchisement. This is love. This is respect. This is brotherhood.