John Baackes joins Meg on the ACAP Coffee Break to discuss his journey from a freelance graphic design business to leading a health plan. He talks about the challenges in addressing the social determinants of health, especially the challenges of meeting the needs of people experiencing homelessness -- and how Buckminster Fuller helped teach him how to solve health care problems. 

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