Doc welcomes Armored Saint vocalist, John Bush, to the show, and they talk about Armored Saint's new album, Symbol of Salvation Live, what the early days were like for the band, why they struggled to breakthrough on a bigger scale, how he has balanced making a living outside of music for his whole career, how he discovered his approach to his unique vocal style, his feelings on the creative output in his time with Anthrax, why Anthrax tended to lean towards less thrashy material during his tenure, and how he weighs creative success versus commercial success.

This episode features the songs "Petitions & Protesters" by The Opinion Industry, "Into The Deep End" by Cerebellion, and "Reign of Fire" (Live) by Armored Saint.

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