Ben & John talk on the lifestyle crisis that the cybersecurity industry face, the difficulty maintaining a healthy lifestyle in a high demand, 'always on' industry. Burnout and their own personal experiences as well as role models - people within the industry that are in a position to shape the future of the space and rewrite the narrative.

The importance of routine, the need for balance, moderation, and a long-term commitment to health and well-being, while also addressing the cultural pressures within the cybersecurity field.

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