In this episode of the Threshing Floor, we sit down with John Heinz from Centerform, an innovation hub for Christian Ministry. Centerform serves as a co-working and event space in downtown Atlanta, Ga. 

Our conversation includes:

• Red Dawn.
• Gas station snacks.
• What movie have you seen the most?
• Casey Neistat.
• John Heinz, the chief innovation strategist at Centerform.
• Reurbanization and the church.
• Engaging urban ministry.
• Coexisting voices.
• Centerform is about questions and getting the right people at the table and discovering the answers together.
• Defining urbanization.
• What is an innovation hub?
• What it means to create a fishpond.
• Discovering common language together. 
• Rediscovering the idea of vocation. 
• Space for pioneers and apostles.