For ecologist John O’Brien and vet Johan Joubert, Shamwari Private Game Reserve in the Eastern Cape has been a major part of their lives.

These close friends and colleagues have worked together at Shamwari since the early days to create one of the world’s most highly regarded ‘Big 5’ wildlife reserves.

Join them here on Frontierland as they discuss their memories as well as hopes for the future. It makes for a fascinating listen.