This podcast in my Singles series - roughly five minutes long - is part of an interview I did with John Waters two days after the Eurovision Song Contest in 2007. His song, as performed by Dervish, had come last, but at the start of the tape, we both were talking about our response to Karolina, the Macedonian entrant that year. I turned on the tape recorder when John was talking about lustful feelings for Karolina. This then led to me saying that Tori Amos was told by a Native American spirit guide that all the men who wanted to sleep with her" wanted to tap into her God force.' Hence that quote I used in the title which came from John. Nonsense or otherwise it is a provocative clip, I believe.