I recently wrote a controversial oped for the Morning Chalk Up on why my CrossFit gym isn’t an essential business. John Wooley, from the regularly hysterical CrossFit satire account @makewodsgreatagain, wrote a thoughtful response disagreeing with my claim that CrossFit gyms are not essential. I figured it would be interesting to have a recorded conversation where we hash out where we agree and where we disagree. While John and I don’t completely agree on everything, I think this is a complicated, nuanced issue, and working it out in public is hopefully helpful to some people. You can check out the full conversation here.

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Show Notes:

• [0:47] Quick summary of Todd’s op ed – and the ensuing controversy
• [3:29] John’s take on my article: What should and shouldn’t be considered an essential business? Also, John’s family’s background with CrossFit.
• [15:50] How are we defining “essential?” What are regulators thinking about when deciding what should and shouldn’t be considered “essential?”
• [27:30] How should we think about the trade-offs between the negative impacts of chronic disease vs the negative impacts of a spreading pandemic?
• [35:50] What do gym owners need to be thinking about as different states start to reopen? What is the potential downside risk of opening early? How can we prevent a second wave of infections and economic shutdowns?
• [45:49] What will be the role of ongoing government regulations? What will the regulatory burden be on smaller gyms?
• [54:20] How will members be thinking about getting back into the gym?
• [01:05:40] The social dynamics of getting roasted online

Links and Resources Mentioned

• Morning Chalk Up
• OpEd: One Box Owner’s Opinion, “My CrossFit Gym is Not an Essential Business” from the Morning Chalk Up
• At-Home Workout: Hops, Bent-Over Rows, Planks, Chair Dips from CrossFit
• Saxon Panchik
• Spencer Panchik
• CrossFit Cliffside
• Big Five personality traits
• Moral hazard
• “Endothelial cell infection and endotheliitis in COVID-19” from The Lancet
• Rethinking Our Assumptions During the COVID-19 Crisis with David Krakauer from the Santa Fe Institute
• “Bowling Alone” by Robert Putnam