Josiah and John get lost in the gritty world of 1970's Gotham and consider the traumatic, violent, psychologically deceptive world of the Joker. Their love of this film as a work of cinema is undenieable but the conversation reels out into questions of vigilantism, fame, celebrity, morality and filmmaking.  "Joker" is a film that requires though and reflection. The craftsmanship of the film inspired us to an extraordinary  conversation.  This is along one but full of content we would love your comments on......

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In this podcast, we read: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/03/joker-review-joaquin-phoenix-todd-phillips

https://www.leftvoice.org/joker-the-despair-of-capitalism-and-the-hope-of-riots