Mediaite editor in chief Aidan McLaughlin speaks to New York Times music critic Jon Caramanica. They discuss the life and legacy of Virgil Abloh, interviewing Kanye West in Wyoming, covering the music industry through a pandemic, and whether Drake has a good album left in him. Caramanica, who hails from Brooklyn, cut his teeth in journalism writing for rap magazines. He now wears a few enviable hats at the Times: pop music critic, author of the Critical Shopper column, and host of the Popcast podcast.