Find a spot to chill and check out what Jon Dufresne and I have to say about stuff in this awesome conversation we had the other day. Jon is one of those dudes who is fun to be around and is constantly deep thinking about stuff, even though he’s candid about almost everything. I am very fortunate to know him and hope this episode might inspire some of you guys to go check out what he’s got going on over at Kinetic Consulting. And remember…eat desert first! 

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