In this episode, Sarah interviews her friend Jon Hyde about his leather goods business based in Sheffield. Prior to this he was a photographer and ran a queer film programme at a cinema in Brighton.

Jon shares why he started making leather goods, how earlier aspects of his life and career have played a part in running his business, and what it's been like moving up north. He also talks about his love of nature and learning about geography, and some of the challenges that he has faced throughout his life. Please note that he briefly talks about death and grief.

Here’s the full list of questions that Sarah asked Jon:

• Why did you start making things from leather?
• How do you get through the challenges of picking up a new craft?
• How have you learned this craft?
• Do you think it requires a certain level of patience?
• How long did it take you to start selling your goods?
• Have you had customers from all over the world?
• What’s the process that you go through from designing to selling a product?
• Do you have help with any parts of the business?
• What lifestyle does this work facilitate for you?
• How did you arrive at the point where you feel comfortable with what you’re earning?
• Do you feel like you value money in a different way now?
• Where do you think that your love of the outdoors is rooted?
• What prompted you to move to Sheffield?
• How has it been moving into a new city and away from a place where you had friends and you felt quite established?
• What’s gone on behind the scenes?
• Why do you think it can feel so hard to step out of societal norms and pressures?
• Do you have particular values that you stand by and hold close within your business as well?
• What question would you ask someone who is thinking about designing, making, and selling their craft, but they are perhaps feeling overwhelmed by all the different aspects of setting up a small business?

This episode was recorded while sitting on a hillside of Kinder Scout in Edale, by Sarah Lister on 16th December 2021, and edited by Gabby Wolstenholme.

You can visit Jon's website Hyde Wares, visit his Etsy shop, and follow him on Instagram. Find out more about his work in this beautiful short documentary by Sam Binstead which celebrates small makers.

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