<a href="http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled.jpg"><img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1796" src="http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled-300x300.jpg 300w, http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled-150x150.jpg 150w, http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled-768x768.jpg 768w, http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled.jpg 1320w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>Jon Krampner is the author of Ernest Lehman: The Sweet Smell of Success.
We discuss if Mo Udall became president instead of Carter we may never had Reagan, writing biographies vs. novels, and what happens when two writers are locked in a dark closet.
Drinks with Tony is on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/drinks-with-tony/id1445353970?mt=2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">iTunes</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1VedfBHT1tHoxpaajUTfcc?si=QnSWg_xLS0uk6_r5wvEK0w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://u12069013.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=akDMSBsYXYO7u5ic2o3BiA32UcU2MKDB5W18aBSaJzImBDnad9zjNLd9IyfNNnoMPHZjAU91R118SDZrDb-2FJzv9-2BIFwouS-2Fe0znXOwb5CouZXgbZf-2B-2BwWXAJpSzHHjdVZ0-2BcANTIiBFFxQtlcGcTgRrMkIBCaat-2B82CTLKYs-2BShoMGrqpKd-2Bh5B6mcwi4Uo2OnahXjtri-2B6M7fRQhMGD3t6CbXrqoNFlVd-2B-2BanXtaX8-3D_72CseOIxlI4ajms1-2BVCsrdCssHzkWWUkxWrT6Q17hkJEXX-2BvqyLS18CKuKGtrePKagys0euxtQKGYcphJnI2HujmCRr8xS8eFC7sbNpDtA7wVynZAdcjdGykm8cWtBDhJv5cW013uw0Si93GOJm4RgrtyEH60X6t3e2etN7-2Bc8SkUGCO7KnQrFU9HsiqVvzsHayU0XB46XPSQyZ2rutCpzDhkU7rOG0HRuIQrfq6sGu4uyoU9u0quPHr2VHu0ig7GPgZwHRzKYqFCI7QexLMyZmlhJyQ5DVU1UigFQLB2ue8qpNGfBuuKrr4LXNURND9XdO9HucnExNWAZhBIbf3R30yzUO06RbjByEvE-2BMJSXfd4TiwkgoJmgRtAH516LWC" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pandora</a>, and other podcast outlets. It also airs every Thursday evening at 6pm on 101.9 FM, KPCR, Santa Cruz.
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Jon Krampner is the author of Ernest Lehman: The Sweet Smell of Success. We discuss if Mo Udall became president instead of Carter we may never had Reagan, writing biographies vs. novels, and what happens when two writers are locked in a dark closet. Drinks with Tony is on iTunes, Spotify, Pandora, and other podcast outlets. It also airs every Thursday evening at 6pm on 101.9 FM, KPCR, Santa Cruz.

<a href="http://www.drinkswithtony.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Untitled.jpg" rel="noopener noreferrer"></a>Jon Krampner is the author of Ernest Lehman: The Sweet Smell of Success.
We discuss if Mo Udall became president instead of Carter we may never had Reagan, writing biographies vs. novels, and what happens when two writers are locked in a dark closet.
Drinks with Tony is&nbsp;on&nbsp;<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/drinks-with-tony/id1445353970?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer">iTunes</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1VedfBHT1tHoxpaajUTfcc?si=QnSWg_xLS0uk6_r5wvEK0w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spotify</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://u12069013.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=akDMSBsYXYO7u5ic2o3BiA32UcU2MKDB5W18aBSaJzImBDnad9zjNLd9IyfNNnoMPHZjAU91R118SDZrDb-2FJzv9-2BIFwouS-2Fe0znXOwb5CouZXgbZf-2B-2BwWXAJpSzHHjdVZ0-2BcANTIiBFFxQtlcGcTgRrMkIBCaat-2B82CTLKYs-2BShoMGrqpKd-2Bh5B6mcwi4Uo2OnahXjtri-2B6M7fRQhMGD3t6CbXrqoNFlVd-2B-2BanXtaX8-3D_72CseOIxlI4ajms1-2BVCsrdCssHzkWWUkxWrT6Q17hkJEXX-2BvqyLS18CKuKGtrePKagys0euxtQKGYcphJnI2HujmCRr8xS8eFC7sbNpDtA7wVynZAdcjdGykm8cWtBDhJv5cW013uw0Si93GOJm4RgrtyEH60X6t3e2etN7-2Bc8SkUGCO7KnQrFU9HsiqVvzsHayU0XB46XPSQyZ2rutCpzDhkU7rOG0HRuIQrfq6sGu4uyoU9u0quPHr2VHu0ig7GPgZwHRzKYqFCI7QexLMyZmlhJyQ5DVU1UigFQLB2ue8qpNGfBuuKrr4LXNURND9XdO9HucnExNWAZhBIbf3R30yzUO06RbjByEvE-2BMJSXfd4TiwkgoJmgRtAH516LWC" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pandora</a>,&nbsp;and other podcast outlets. It also airs every Thursday evening at 6pm on 101.9 FM, KPCR, Santa Cruz.

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Tony DuShane chats with authors and storytellers. Started in 2002, Drinks with Tony has aired on KFJC, Pirate Cat Radio, and Radio Valencia. DuShane is the author and screenwriter of Confessions of a Teenage Jesus Jerk, directed by Eric Stoltz, available on Amazon Prime.

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