In this special live-recorded episode of the Lincoln Log Podcast, host Joshua Claybourn moderates a fascinating discussion from the 2025 Abraham Lincoln Association Symposium with two distinguished guests: historian Jonathan W. White and researcher William J. Griffing.

Their new book, A Great and Good Man: Rare, First-Hand Accounts and Observations of Abraham Lincoln, brings to light over 200 previously unpublished accounts of Lincoln from those who knew him during the Civil War era. These rare narratives offer an intimate, unfiltered look at the 16th president—revealing new dimensions of his character, leadership, and legacy.

White, an award-winning historian and author of A House Built by Slaves, and Griffing, a dedicated researcher of first-hand Civil War-era accounts, discuss how these discoveries challenge long-standing narratives and humanize Lincoln in unexpected ways.