<p>Second of a two part conversation with Jonas Bötel. He's a freelance software engineer, and core part of the remote team behind Subnautica! Find him on Twitter as @CodeLumpN. Featuring guest cohost Tiffany Otto (@TOttomatic). Music by Danny Baranowsky</p>

Second of a two part conversation with Jonas Bötel. He's a freelance software engineer, and core part of the remote team behind Subnautica! Find him on Twitter as @CodeLumpN. Featuring guest cohost Tiffany Otto (@TOttomatic). Music by Danny Baranowsky

Jonas Bötel of Subnautica, Pt 2 of 2 (Guest Cohost: Tiffany Otto)

This show's mission is to share the stories and views of people from a wide range of background experiences and experience levels, to help show a rich view of what's involved in making games (AAA, indies, game jammers, hobbyists, and more!), various sides of the game industry, and today's game communities and events. Intro and outro music is by Danny Baranowsky, used with permission.

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Jonas Bötel of Subnautica, Pt 2 of 2 (Guest Cohost: Tiffany Otto)

Jonas Bötel of Subnautica, Pt 2 of 2 (Guest Cohost: Tiffany Otto)