<p>In this episode of the <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/topics/oreilly-hardware-podcast">Hardware Podcast</a>, we talk with <a href="http://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~jrb/">Jonathan Bachrach</a>, a professor in the Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences (EECS) Department at UC Berkeley, and co-founder of <a href="https://otherlab.com/">Otherlab</a>, a research-driven lab and incubator that sits at the intersection between software and machines.</p>

In this episode of the Hardware Podcast, we talk with Jonathan Bachrach, a professor in the Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences (EECS) Department at UC Berkeley, and co-founder of Otherlab, a research-driven lab and incubator that sits at the intersection between software and machines.

<p>In this episode of the <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/topics/oreilly-hardware-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hardware Podcast</a>, we talk with <a href="http://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~jrb/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jonathan Bachrach</a>, a professor in the Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences (EECS) Department at UC Berkeley, and co-founder of <a href="https://otherlab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Otherlab</a>, a research-driven lab and incubator that sits at the intersection between software and machines.</p>

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