Hey friends, here's a little thing about truth, movement, reality, Herod, US Presidents, and love. I reference a Substack conversation I had that is itself called Grief in the Holidays. Click the link to watch or listen. It turned out nicely and I think could help a lot of people during this challenging time. 

Other references that I hope you'll check out include the new denominational ecosystem we've started to credential pastors and endorse chaplains, called the Curian Network

Thank you! 

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Loved catching up with Brian Recker about both his work and his USA Today bestselling book, Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love. Subscribe to Brian’s substack publication and find him on Instagram (with a few hundred thousand other people!)

Thanks everyone. This will likely be our last Substack Live of the year for Tori and I, but we’re already talking about 2026 plans.

Hey, if you resonate with some of the stuff we were talking about today and you’re a faith leader, you should know about opentable.network (soon to be thecurian.network). It’s a new denominational space credentialing and resourcing pastors, chaplains, counselors, and spiritual directors. We’re a 501c3 and a recognized endorser with The Association of Professional Chaplains. It’s going to be pretty interesting to see how this space develops and if you need a safe, new theological home, well, who knows, maybe we’re all showing up for such a time as this. 👊🏼

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Tori and I got to meetup with the Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis recently and talk about love, patience, the state of the world, racism, and her book Fierce Love: A Bold Path to Ferocious Courage and Rule-Breaking Kindness That Can Heal the World. And hey, if you're like me, you'll pick up a copy of The Just Love Story Bible for any children in your life. 

Thanks everyone!
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Tori and I had a fantastic conversation on Substack Live with the Rev. Zach Lambert about his book Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm into a Tool of Healing (Four New Lenses for Making Sense of Scripture). 

Find Zach on social media or Substack. Shouldn't be hard to find because he's got a lot of followers! 

Thanks everyone.

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Fantastic for Tori Owens and I to meetup with Danny Bryant today to talk about his book Unless a Seed Falls to the Ground: Welcoming the Death of the Whiteness Gospel. The book shares both the wounds and rewards of being a native son of a puritanical way of life with the hope of inviting others into a season of hospice in a way that allows it to die with dignity. It's a solid and important read (and this conversation is, too). We talk about how the system isn't broken; rather, it's working as it's been designed to work, how each of us are in the middle of trying to process the violence currently running rampant in our country, navigating these issues with family members who approach politics and religion in different ways than we do, and more. 

Thanks everyone,
Jonathan 

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It was great to have Jim Palmer on talking about meaning making, the role of God, love, how atheism can get it wrong, religion, nihilism, and Costa Rica! Find him on Substack with thousands and thousands of followers and also on Amazon or Facebook. Jim is a good friend of mine and I'm really glad we were able to carve out an hour with him. 

Subscribe, like, and review the show. I dare you! 

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I had a great time talking with the Dr. John Pohl about what the microbiome might say about metaphysics (and metaphysics about the microbiome). Not to mention prehension, panentheism, and panexperientialism and a host of other things!

I hope you'll check it out, find him on Substack, and read his dissertation turned book, which is called A Theology of the Microbiome: An Intersection of Divinity and the Microbial Life Within Us. 

Thanks everyone and find me at these links 👇🏼

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I don’t know how one gets to be so lucky as to be acquainted with Ilia Delio, but Tori E. Owens and I are and today we got to catch up with her online. It’s probably the best start to a conversation I’ve ever had as the first thing out of the box was “So, I play guitar.” 😂 And then it just went up from ther

We were able to talk about mysticism, evolution, the distinctions between Whitehead and Teilhard, and also differences between the words being and becoming, plus the idea of contradiction, love, and a little phrase that I like: unitive moreness

You can find Ilia all over the internet, including at the Center for Christogenesis. Tori and I have both read a ton of her work and personally, well, let’s see, if I had to go with my favorite it might be The Unbearable Wholeness of Being. But all of them are great.

Make sure to like, share, and subscribe. Do it, we dare you. 

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Hey, friends, thanks for joining me and Tori as we talk to the Rev. Brian Zahnd. Brian is the author of multiple books (probably my favorite is Beauty Will Save the World), including his latest, The Wood Between the Worlds: A Poetic Theology of the Cross. 

He's also the pastor of Word of Life Church, a speaker, and a lover of mountains. Last time Brian was on we spent the whole time talking about Rocky Mtn National Park, so we successfully stayed clear of that topic today (for the most part), however he did mention the Camino de Santiago on multiple occassions, something I hope to do before my days are finished on this earth. 

If you like what Brian has to say, make sure to follow him on any and all social media platforms, but we interviewed him through his substack channel here.  

Speaking of Substack make sure to find me there at the link below and, of course, don't forget about the amazing work I get to be a part of with lovehait.org. Thanks everyone!

Jonathan 

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Hey everyone, thanks for hanging out with Tori and I with Ben Cremer where we talk about fun things like pastoring, justice, the mark of the beast, politics, christianity, living in geographical areas (social areas, too) where there isn’t much room to think outside the box, and much, much more! Make sure to subscribe to any of Ben's channels, but you can find his Substack here. 

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