In this episode, Jarvis, Jo, and Katie talk to veteran environmentalist, Jonathon Porritt about his thirty years of activism including Forum For The Future and his latest book, Hope In Hell. The panel also discuss Lewis Pugh's epic multi-day polar swim - the first ever attempted - ahead of COP26 and the Lion Trail, an international art exhibition organised by Tusk to mark World Lion Day. Step Six in Let's Talk About Six covers How We Holiday.

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Music by The Phoenix Rose

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