Making things better and making better things

Jonathon Smales: You've got to have dirt under your nails. From coal to Greenpeace.


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Jonathon is a leader in sustainability and always has been. One of the heavyweights of sustainability and was there from the start. We met nearly three decades ago and he continues to inspire me and everyone he has contact with. we talk music, fashion, sustainability and so much more. We travel from coal to an old open-cast coal mine in South Yorkshire. Part one of a two-parter.
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Making things better and making better thingsBy Mark Shayler's podcast from the Woodshed.

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