Eric is joined by Jonders to talk a wide range of subjects.

Jonders love of Brett Farve but passion for the Seahawks, and his mind space about the team after a rocky offseason.

What it's like making a podcast that has hosted luminaries like Rich Eisen. Why he advocates so heavily for mental health and his goal for the show.

Finally we finish with a lightning round which includes some nerd talk, and Jonders disavows his narc status.