In this episode of The Watchers, Andy Sauer sits down with former CIA officer Jonny Gannon for an inside look at clandestine operations, from the front lines of post-9/11 Afghanistan, to leading elite teams in the world’s most high-stakes environments.

Gannon shares hard-earned lessons on trust, leadership under fire, and the realities of espionage, alongside firsthand insight into how artificial intelligence is transforming intelligence work today.

It’s a sharp, unfiltered conversation about service, risk, and what it truly takes to operate, and lead, in a world that refuses to stand still.

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