Joseph Cohen is the co-founder and CEO of Universe, a mobile-first website builder that aims to empower everyone to build the internet.

Our conversation covered Joe's early enamorment with the internet, his view on technological and cultural progress, the changing role of the digital designer, and advice for young toolmakers.

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