Joseph and I talk about being a serial entrepreneur, blockchain, hang out, does yoga, makes phone calls, publicly traded blockchain, token use cases, crypto-space, real estate finance, super duper awesome tech person, not Bitcoin, digital ledger consensus verified, clear, transparent, insured system, FICA score, large swathes of paperwork, digitization of society, dogs, disparate data silos, broker dealers and investment groups, dwarf goats, performance and mindset officer, awareness of balance and synergies in a decentralized company.