On this episode of Talking in Circles we dive into the news that Josh Berry will drive the No. 9 Chevrolet for Hendrick Motorsports for five of the next six races. How will he do? Plus, we look at who are the favorites to replace Kevin Harvick in the No. 4 Ford in 2024? Is Berry a candidate? Also, Kyle Petty made comments about Ryan Blaney saying that so far he has failed to live up to expectations. Were Petty’s comments warranted? Finally, we look at Phoenix and give our thoughts on who we think will be strong and what to look out for heading into this weekend’s events.