Josh Rogin, Washington Post opinion columnist and author of "Chaos Under Heaven," joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the challenge of covering an Olympics in China, bias of omission, COVID confirmation bias, how the media screwed up the lab leak story, lack of media curiosity about COVID, source bias and "source greasing," media's refusal to admit when they're wrong, media deference for Dr. Fauci, the need to push those in power, opinion vs. news, Jeff Bezos, being married to another foreign affairs journalist, and more.

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