<p>Michael's kidnapping by IS underlies his first-hand knowledge of the jihadist group</p>

Michael's kidnapping by IS underlies his first-hand knowledge of the jihadist group

Journalist Michael Ware explains the origins of Islamic State

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Hear all the thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2012-2014.To binge even more great episodes of the ‘Conversationspodcast’ with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowskigo the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

Hear all the thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2012-2014.To&nbsp;binge&nbsp;even more&nbsp;great episodes&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;‘Conversationspodcast’&nbsp;with&nbsp;Richard Fidler&nbsp;and&nbsp;Sarah Kanowskigo the&nbsp;ABC listen app&nbsp;(Australia) or wherever you get your&nbsp;podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of&nbsp;the best&nbsp;thought-provoking interviews&nbsp;with&nbsp;authors,&nbsp;writers,&nbsp;artists,&nbsp;politicians,&nbsp;psychologists,&nbsp;musicians, and&nbsp;celebrities.

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Journalist Michael Ware explains the origins of Islamic State

Journalist Michael Ware explains the origins of Islamic State