Ostrolenk and Gary Collins, host of Your Better Life podcast (https://www.thesimplelifenow.com/category/ybl-podcast/) and TheSimpleLifeNow.com, speak with Abel James, the Fat Burning Man (https://fatburningman.com/). James discusses his journey through the world of health and nutrition, including lessons learned and how the scene has evolved over time. Having observed some players stay true to their goals and others sell out, Ostrolenk, Collins, and James reflect on the positives and negatives of the ongoing work in the health and nutrition sector. James concludes with his thoughts on how ancestral principles have influenced his path and the importance of authenticity in work that ultimately impacts peoples’ health. To learn more about Abel James, visit his website The Fat Burning Man (https://fatburningman.com/) and check out his new book Designer Babies Still Get Scabies (https://www.amazon.com/Designer-Babies-Still-Get-Scabies/dp/1099353092).