The topic of this episode was joy—the second in Paul’s list of the fruit of the Spirit. In the words of our guest, Justin Crisp, “Joy is more like Champagne than Sprite.”

Justin Crisp is Associate Rector and Theologian-in-Residence at St. Mark’s Episcopal church in New Canaan, Connecticut. In this podcast, we talk about the book he co-edited with Miroslav Volf titled “Joy and Human Flourishing: Essays on Theology, Culture, and the Good Life."