In this conversation, Season and Phil discuss the importance of flexibility and surrender in experiencing joy and freedom. They talk about the need to release control and trust in God's plan, even when it doesn't align with our expectations. Phil shares personal stories of how he has learned to let go of his identity, sufficiency, and contentment in order to fully trust in God. They emphasize the importance of being tested and allowing God to search our hearts, as well as the desire to continually thirst for more of God's presence and love.

• Flexibility and surrender are key to experiencing joy and freedom.

Keywords: flexibility, surrender, joy, freedom, control, trust, identity, sufficiency, contentment, testing, searching, thirst, love