Erika Washington talks with Joy Hoover, Founder of The Cupcake Girls and Esōes Cosmetics, about what she calls "the Discipline of Hope."

Thank you for listening to Sticky Note Conversations with Erika Washington. Hosted and Executively Produced by Erika Washington. Music, mixing, and editing by Black Gypsy LLC. Special Thanks to KUNV 91.5 in Las Vegas. This show is powered by Make It Work Nevada, a project of Tides Advocacy. 

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